We're in the business of introducing people to Jesus; to building an ever-growing community of people who love and serve him. But what comes first when a new person comes along?
I've come out of a community of people who firmly taught that you believe first, then you belong, then you behave. In practice they wanted you to believe first, then behave properly and finally you could belong.
In reaction to this I've known people who say you need to belong before you believe. While the church more broadly is known for its moralising and teaching people to behave properly before they can belong and believe.
How about we press into a new dynamic. Lets leave arguments about the chronology of these processes behind, and begin to understand them like a triangle. All three happen at the same time. They all need to grow concurrently. There's never going to be a single person who cannot belong more fully, believe more truly and behave in a more Godly way. Everyone needs to be challenged in all three areas.
They're all linked as well... the nature of a triune God tells us that we need to be in community to believe properly and to behave/live in a Godly way. If you want to behave you have to believe and belong, and if you want to belong properly you have to believe and behave. No one is more or less important than the others.
Working as a Student Pastor in Leeds, studying theology and trying to keep up with my amazing wife and three kids. These are my reflections on the run. I hope they make Jesus a bit more famous.
Friday, 26 October 2012
Reflections on a Lunchbar talk
For those of you not familiar with a lunchbar (they're a staple of Christian Union activity for years) they're a free lunch provided by a Christian group with a talk addressing an objection that a non-Christian might have to the Christian faith.
I was speaking at one of these events yesterday and my subject was 'Freedom'. Does Jesus want to set us free or put us in chains? I felt like I did a good job of presenting on the subject and I might blog some of the ideas soon.
The thing that stuck out to me from this event was the Q&A session afterwards. A few guys had come along wanting to challenge Christianity and their questions went from: 'why can you trust the Bible?' through 'how can a good God allow suffering?' into statements like 'God is a moral monster', 'the church is evil' and 'there is no evidence for Christianity - i'm a scientist and only believe things for which I have conclusive evidence.'
The outstanding impression I left with was that they didn't actually believe any of these statements. I gently rebutted each of them and their disbelief was unwavering.
One of the guys came to a noble conclusion that the evidence he is looking for as to whether Christianity is true or not is not in the academic arguments but in the story of believers with transformed lives. If Christianity is true it must work in transforming people into the image of Christ.
What he needs more than anything else is a Christian friend to share life with - to see living in the light of the truth of the gospel. He doesn't need them to have the answers - just to show him a life transformed by Jesus.
His words not mine.
Arguments for the existence of God
My faith in Jesus is not founded on logical arguments but on an experience of God working in and through me. However if God is real, it would be natural if we could look at his world and observe his handiwork. This is my effort at trying to clarify how I see God at work in the world every day.
The arguments are well known, the red highlights are what I take from them. Please note the sequential nature of the conversation:
1.
Classical Ontological Argument (Being)
a.
God is by definition an absolutely perfect
being.
b.
But existence is a perfection.
c.
Therefore, God must exist.
Creates
the possibility of God’s existence (non-trivial)
2.
Classical Cosmological Argument (Cause)
a.
The universe had a beginning.
b.
Anything that had a beginning must have been
caused by something else.
c.
Therefore the universe was caused by
something else (a Creator)
Activates
God’s existence in our minds
3.
Classical Teleological Argument (Purpose)
a.
All designs imply a designer.
b.
There is a great design in the universe.
c.
Therefore, there must be a Great Designer of
the universe.
The
God who exists must be more complex, powerful and intelligent than we can
conceive
4.
Modern Moral Argument (Law of God)
a.
Moral laws imply a Moral Law Giver.
b.
There is an objective moral law.
c.
Therefore, there is a Moral Law Giver.
This
God value’s life and human life above all else in creation
5.
Modern Epistemological Argument (Existence of
Rationality)
a.
Human rationality correlates with the
rational structure of the world.
b.
If the world developed by chance, it would be
highly unlikely that human rationality would correlate with the structure of
the world.
c.
Therefore, there must be a Creator that
created human rationality to correlate with the rational structure of the
world.
We
have a unique capacity to know God and mediate between him and the world
Network & Neighbourhood
What is local?
It's a conversation that's relevant to me only as i use the phrase 'local church' maybe 100 times a week. I have a theological sense of the meaning of the word Church, but not the same clarity around the idea of local.
Bishop Graham Cray has been helpful to me on this. He's written in answer to the question 'what is local in the 21st Century?' and he affirms the idea that local has become two things: neighbourhood, and network.
Your Neighbourhood is your domestic location, where you watch TV, sleep, and other basic things. It's basically your home - your digs.
Your Network is your social (or vocational) location. The places our work takes us, the students on our course or in our societies.
The key thing is that these two ideas coexist in everyone's life to a greater or lesser degree. Someone who is multilingual and travels the world all the time would have a stronger sense of network whereas someone who is not economically mobile would have a stronger sense of neighbourhood.
Arguments about whether a church should be attractional or incarnational seem to be a little missing the point. Do we not need network churches to reach those who have a strong sense of networked life? And do we not need neighbourhood churches to reach those who have a strong sense of neighbourhood?
Smart undergrad students from middle-class families are almost the epitome of networked people. We build church in Leeds to suit them and to reach them. Our experience of church as students is almost completely network-led and we sometimes need to remember the value of neighbourhood churches.
[Reference: Matt Wilson, Concrete Faith, pg 113-114 http://eden-network.org/concretefaith/]
It's a conversation that's relevant to me only as i use the phrase 'local church' maybe 100 times a week. I have a theological sense of the meaning of the word Church, but not the same clarity around the idea of local.
Bishop Graham Cray has been helpful to me on this. He's written in answer to the question 'what is local in the 21st Century?' and he affirms the idea that local has become two things: neighbourhood, and network.
Your Neighbourhood is your domestic location, where you watch TV, sleep, and other basic things. It's basically your home - your digs.
Your Network is your social (or vocational) location. The places our work takes us, the students on our course or in our societies.
The key thing is that these two ideas coexist in everyone's life to a greater or lesser degree. Someone who is multilingual and travels the world all the time would have a stronger sense of network whereas someone who is not economically mobile would have a stronger sense of neighbourhood.
Arguments about whether a church should be attractional or incarnational seem to be a little missing the point. Do we not need network churches to reach those who have a strong sense of networked life? And do we not need neighbourhood churches to reach those who have a strong sense of neighbourhood?
Smart undergrad students from middle-class families are almost the epitome of networked people. We build church in Leeds to suit them and to reach them. Our experience of church as students is almost completely network-led and we sometimes need to remember the value of neighbourhood churches.
[Reference: Matt Wilson, Concrete Faith, pg 113-114 http://eden-network.org/concretefaith/]
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